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No, Mike Pence Can’t Unilaterally Stop the Electoral Vote Certification

Let’s kill this horrible rumor dead, shall we? – Listen up: Vice President Pence does not have the power to determine whether or not congress certifies the electoral vote on January 6. He just doesn’t, and no amount of disinformation spread around social media platforms is going to change that immutable fact of life. Patrick Byrne and L. Lin Wood have been spreading that utter and complete nonsense for several days now (see below).

This stuff has also been making the rounds on Facebook and other social media platforms. It is false. It is reprehensibly false, and it is having the effect of impugning Pence’s reputation and creating a potentially dangerous situation for him and his security detail when it becomes obvious on January 6th that none of this is going to happen.

I mean, think about it: If any vice president really had any such authority, would Richard Nixon have become president in 1969? What about John Kennedy in 1961? Both of those men “won” the electoral vote over sitting vice presidents (Nixon in 1960, Humphrey in 1968) by extremely narrow margins, and Kennedy did it amid (true) allegations that the mob had stolen several states for him. If any vice president really had these powers, George W. Bush would have never become president, nor would Donald Trump, for that matter. I mean, if the sitting Veep can control the outcome, why wouldn’t the Democrat Party have simply instructed Biden to do that rather than engage in 4 years of a slow-rolling coup d’etat?

Apply Occam’s Razor here, folks: The clear answer to the questions above is that no vice president actually has any such powers. Period.

Vice President Pence has one role on January 6, and that is to preside over what is almost always a pro forma, uneventful joint session of congress during which the Electoral College results will be approved, normally via a motion for unanimous consent. If one member of the House and one member of the Senate object, however, then the joint session will be dissolved and each house will hold a brief debate before casting a role call vote on the matter.

As I reported late yesterday, the latter will be the case this time, as Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley is defying the will of Mitch McConnell and planning to file an objection, along with about two dozen members of the House. The debate will be for “up to 2 hours,” after which the vote will be held. The positive is that it will force every member of both parties to certify these clearly fraudulent election results by name for posterity. The negative part is that it has no chance whatsoever of changing the outcome.

VP Pence is not going to change that outcome, either, so put that out of your minds right now. Despite the nonsense being spread by Byrne, Wood and others, he simply has no authority whatsoever to do so.

Pence will preside over the joint session, period. That is it, and his role is very restricted while doing so. He has no power to make motions, to participate in any debate that might break out or to participate in the vote. His role is so restricted on that particular day, in fact, that he doesn’t even get to perform his normal duties as President of the Senate in the very unlikely event that a tie vote on the matter should occur.

I am aware that some other “conservative” bloggers who I won’t name are spreading this nonsense in order to attract clicks as well. I could do the same thing and no doubt drive a lot of additional traffic here, but I’m not here to do that, and I’m not going to blow smoke up your skirts. Just know that when you see other websites pushing this nonsense, that is what they are there to do, and if you like being lied to, then by all means continue to click on their stuff. They will no doubt appreciate it.

That is all.

Today’s news moves at a faster pace than ever before. Whatfinger.com is the only real conservative alternative to Drudge. It’s the tool I use to help keep up with all the day’s events, and it should be your tool, too.

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Wednesday News Roundup: Another GOP Surrender in Wayne County, Michigan

Republicans everywhere just keep surrendering. But hey, that’s just what they do. – We’ve discussed the situation with the Maginot Line Republicans in Georgia who have not only stopped fighting for fair and valid elections in their state, but are actually throwing their lot in with the Democrats there.

Yesterday provided us with yet another example of this kind of Vichy GOP worthlessness in Wayne County, Michigan, home of Detroit, one of five cities in all of America in which Joe Biden somehow “out-performed” Hillary Clinton on November 3. There, the Wayne County Board of Canvassers, which consists of 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats, failed to certify the election results due to the fact that the number of votes counted did not come close to matching the number of people who signed into vote. Which is sort of bound to happen in a county where a 2 a.m. drop of 38,000 votes, all for a singe candidate takes place.

Republicans held firm for about 5 minutes – ok, it was really a few hours – until all the to-be-expected death threats started rolling into their social media accounts and they were accused of being racists by activists at a public meeting. In the end, they caved, which Republicans always do, based on a “compromise” in which Michigan’s utterly corrupt Democrat Secretary of State will “audit” the county’s results. Which will be exactly like putting the fox in charge of the hen house.

From a story at the Detroit Free Press:

After initially voting against certifying the election results, Monica Palmer, the Republican chair of the committee, said she would be open to certifying the election results for other jurisdictions but not Detroit.

But Chris Thomas, the former director of elections for Michigan who served as a special adviser to Detroit City Clerk Janice Winfrey, responded, “I think that’s absurd. I think that would make a mockery of the situation. To open the door to selective canvassing would be a huge disservice to the election process.”

Public commenters who spoke during the meeting accused the board’s Republican members of disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of voters — particularly African-American voters — in initially refusing to certify the election.

Jonathan Kinloch, the Democratic vice chair of the board accused the Republican members of playing politics rather than fulfilling their legal obligation to certify the results. “I believe politics made its presence today,” Kinloch said. “This is reckless and irresponsible action by this board,” he added. Democratic board member Allen Wilson agreed. “I’m actually appalled to be sitting here today,” he said.

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Thus does Michigan fall unless the federal courts can be convinced to intervene, which is highly unlikely to happen.

For more than 50 years, the Democrat Party has been playing the long game, fighting a war of attrition against our nation’s constitution and the freedoms and institutions it guarantees. For more than 50 years, the Republican Party has refused to understand the nature of this enemy of the state and of the people, and thus continued to fight a never-ending series of losing holding actions in which it always ends up getting flanked and giving ground.

Now, they are running out of ground to give, because the ground at stake in this current controversy is the continued existence and conduct of real, democratic elections in this country, which of course constitute the very foundation of our American Republic. Republican surrender monkeys like Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and these two members of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers, who choose the easy way of resolving real controversies by entering into one-sided “compromises” with Democrats only serve to hasten the Republic’s destruction.

This court loss is actually a good thing. – The Trump legal team got poured out by the Pennsylvania Supreme court on Tuesday, but that was to be expected and is actually a good thing, since it speeds the process along.

From a report in the New York Post:

Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court on Tuesday overturned an order requiring that election observers be allowed within six feet of ballot-counting operations.

In its decision, the court said state law only requires that observers be allowed “in the room” where ballots are counted and does not mandate a minimum distance, NBC News said.

The 5-2 majority opinion also found that the Philadelphia Board of Elections “did not act contrary to the law in fashioning its regulations governing the positioning of candidate representatives,” according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.

“Critically, we find the board’s regulations…were reasonable,” Justice Debra Todd wrote.

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Thus does the PA Supreme Court rule that it is “reasonable” for Democrats to segregate GOP election observers to an area from which they are literally unable to “observe” anything at all, which sort of defies the very definition of the word “observer”, doesn’t it?

Anyway, this decision is fine and very much expected, and it now frees up the Trump team to challenge this ruling in federal courts, where the real decision-making on all of this is going to end up taking place. It is doubtful that anyone on the Trump team expect a positive outcome before the PA supremes.

Meanwhile, in other election challenge-related events…

Trump lawyer L. Lin Wood tweeted this late Tuesday night:

Given the behavior of GA election officials to this point, this would not be at all surprising, would it?

Then there was this from election security expert Russ Ramsland on Lou Dobbs’s Fox Business program:

Here is part of what Ramsland had to say:

We have been out looking mostly at Michigan. We are beginning on turning our sights on Pennsylvania and Georgia. The things you find in Michigan are amazing. There are over 3,000 precincts where the presidential votes cast compared to the estimated voters from the SOS (Secretary of State) is 99% all the way up to 350%.

Those kind of numbers don’t exist in the real world. So where did all those votes come from?

And looking at that, we’ve gone back and looked at some of these huge vote dumps that were mostly Biden’s. We call them spikes. We’ve gone back and traced the spikes. We’ve seen where they were cast, primarily in four counties. We looked at how long it took to cast those votes. And we looked at the equipment that exists at all of those locations by serial number. And the fact of the matter is we can’t see any physical way possible for some of those votes to have been in those kind of numbers because they just don’t have the equipment that can produce it in that timing.

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This happened in Nevada, but the corrupt national news media pretty much ignored the story:

From the story at the Las Vegas Review Journal:

Voters might get a second chance to decide the race for Clark County Commission District C, where the number of election discrepancies surpassed the razor-thin margin of victory, county lawmakers said Monday.

During a meeting to certify election results in the county, the commission directed Registrar of Voters Joe Gloria to return early next month with options for a special election between Democratic former Secretary of State Ross Miller and Republican Las Vegas City Councilman Stavros Anthony.

Miller defeated Anthony by just 10 votes in the general election, but Gloria said Monday that his office had identified 139 unexplainable discrepancies in the contest. The discrepancies, he said, were similar to those found throughout the county, including early voting and Election Day check-in errors and issues related to tracking of the process of mail ballots.

But because the number of discrepancies is more than the margin of victory, that called into question the validity of the results, and the uncertainty is unlikely to be resolved by a recount.

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Grenell has a solid point: The vote count is too unreliable to resolve a county commission race, but just fine for a presidential contest? What kind of sense does that make?

So, things are moving ahead, but here we are at hump day, and Sidney Powell still hasn’t released the Kraken as far as anyone can tell.

Not good. Time is running out, and the Kraken, if it exists, demands to be fed.

That is all.

Today’s news moves at a faster pace than ever. Whatfinger.com is the only real conservative alternative to Drudge, and deserves to become everyone’s go-to source for keeping up with all the latest events in real time.

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