Sunday News Roundup: Atlanta Riots, Austin De-Funds Police, CDC Pushes Panic Porn

Here we go again. – Riots broke out in Atlanta last night after video emerged of another questionable police killing of a black man. Here is an excerpt from a report at Aljazeera, which sadly is a far more reliable source of actual information these days than most American media outlets:

Atlanta’s Police Department on Sunday released bodycamera and dashboard camera footage of the attempted arrest and fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks outside a Wendy’s in Georgia’s capital on Friday.

Officers Garrett Rolfe and Devin Brosnan attempted to arrest Brooks after questioning him and getting him to performing inebriation tests.

Footage showed Rolfe attempting to put handcuffs on Brooks before a struggle begins.

Dashcam footage showed the scuffle in more detail, with Brooks, Brosnan and Rolfe all on the floor, before a taser is fired at Rolfe. Three gunshots are then heard while the three are off camera.

Rolfe’s death sparked protests in Atlanta on Saturday night, leading to the Wendy’s where Rolfe was shot being set alight.

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So, in this case, we have a guy who got drunk, passed out in his car while presumably trying to get a burger at the local Wendy’s, and ends up dead when he resists arrest. Knee-jerk defenders of the police are going to yell, “he was resisting arrest!!!!!!”

Yeah, and so what? He was shot in the back while running away from the police officers, drunk out of his mind. Why in the world would a properly trained police officer even pull his gun in that situation, much less pull the trigger? It is absolutely mind-boggling that this specific incident can possibly take place immediately in the wake of three weeks of social unrest over the police murder of George Floyd.

It almost makes you want to think all of this stuff is pre-planned, doesn’t it? But nah, that couldn’t be the case.

Get ready for an entire summer of this stuff, folks, because it’s coming.

Well…’bye. – Atlanta’s police chief resigned in the midst of the rioting, and nobody seems to be interested in talking her out of it:

Atlanta’s police chief resigned and a police officer was terminated after the shooting of a black man, Rayshard Brooks, who later died.

Mr. Brooks, 27 years old, of Atlanta, was shot outside a Wendy’s restaurant Friday night and died soon after. Videos of parts of his struggle with police and its aftermath, widely shared on social media, sparked anger in the city, amid the continuing national outcry over the police killing of George Floyd last month.

“Out of a deep and abiding love for this City and this department, I offered to step aside as police chief,” said Chief Erika Shields, who served in the city’s police department for over two decades, in a statement released Saturday evening. “It is time for the city to move forward and build trust between law enforcement and the communities they serve.”

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Good move. Given the performance of her officers in this case, you kind of have to wonder what in the hell Ms. Shields has been doing to try to build that trust over her 20 years on the force.

Well Bye GIFs | Tenor

“And you shall reap what you sow.” – It’s always great to see personnel from CNN being assaulted by the rioters they’ve spent the last 3 weeks pretending are “peaceful protesters.” Here’s a nice example from last night in Atlanta:

This bus driver shows us the proper technique for dealing with a street thug:

We need more real men in America just like him.

The Wuhan Virus Panic Porn campaign continues to accelerate. – Hey, remember when the goal of the COVID-19 mitigation efforts was to “flatten the curve” in order to ensure that our hospitals weren’t overrun with patients? Remember when the people at the CDC, Antony Fauci and Deborah Birx assured us that was the case?

Yeah, that’s all gone now, subsumed in the frenzy to prevent President Trump from re-starting his campaign rallies. This morning Trump’s own CDC is quoted by The Hill as saying we might have to shut things down again as “cases” are rising in half a dozen states:

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Friday strict social distancing measures that were put in place in March may have to be implemented again if coronavirus cases in the U.S. rise dramatically, CNBC reports.

“Right now, communities are experiencing different levels of transmission occurring, as they gradually ease up onto the community mitigation efforts and gradually reopen,” Jay Butler, CDC’s deputy director for infectious diseases, told reporters Friday.

“If cases begin to go up again, particularly if they go up dramatically, it’s important to recognize that more mitigation efforts such as what were implemented back in March may be needed again,” Butler said. It’s not clear what is considered a dramatic rise.

Again, we have flattened the curve. We have prevented the hospitals from being overrun with COVID-19 patients, if indeed any such possibility ever actually existed, which is unlikely. Despite the media’s politically-motivated hysteria over what they fraudulently continue to refer to as “cases,” deaths due to the virus continue to drop daily.  The number of hospitalizations are going up in some areas, and that is actually a positive sign that more and more testing is being done and that patients are now able to have elective and non-emergency surgeries performed.

Given that Fauci is even denying that this increase in the number of “cases” doesn’t mean there’s a “second wave” coming, it is obvious we have a big problem at the CDC, at least in terms of messaging if not in terms of mismanagement. If these people can’t get their talking points straight, then they need to be prohibited from speaking to the corrupt news media, which is only interested in whipping up a new public panic about the virus.

Oh, hey, that whole “defund the police” deal is not just a blue state thing. – The city council for the socialist enclave of Austin, Texas did this on Thursday:

“You cannot solve a public safety crisis by creating another,” Corby Jastrow, president of the Greater Austin Crime Commission, told the Austin City Council on Thursday.

After a 12-hour meeting, the city council voted unanimously to partially defund the Austin Police Department.

The council’s decision directs the city manager to halt any new sworn officer staff positions, as well as redirect money from the department’s budget and use it toward other social services. The city manager will bring back proposals to the council over the next few months as they decide specific numbers for next year’s city budget.

As far as how much to cut, some socialist and leftist groups have been petitioning the council to take away at least $100 million—a quarter—from the police department’s budget next year.

Hundreds of citizens, including some members of the Democratic Socialists of America, testified to the council on Thursday in favor of the proposal, while some voiced a public safety concern over the decision to defund.

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That’s right, folks: The vote was unanimous. There is not a single member on Austin’s city council willing to defend the city’s police department. You should expect to see similar votes on similar idiotic actions to come from the Texas cities of San Antonio, Dallas and maybe even Houston soon.

Make no mistake about it: There will be massive flight of actual taxpayers from every city that takes these actions. Decades of gentrification and urban revival efforts will go completely to waste. Tens of thousands of minority-owned businesses will die. These cities will all be looking like re-runs of 1980s Detroit soon.

Thanks, Democrats!

That is all.

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65 thoughts on “Sunday News Roundup: Atlanta Riots, Austin De-Funds Police, CDC Pushes Panic Porn

  1. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

    Time to defund cities that defund police departments.

  2. Gregg - June 14, 2020

    I used to think that the vast majority of policemen (99+%) were like the rest of society in that they wanted their work shift to go as smoothly as possible – peaceful and quiet.

    Even before all this, no cop in his right mind would even want to draw, much less fire, his weapon – the amount of paperwork and investigation, suspension, or temporally placed on desk duty would be, should be, a big deterrence to using deadly force.

    I guess I was wrong in that logical assumption that the police were generally NOT looking for trouble or to become ‘famous’.

    Given the amount of glaring press and biased MSM and social media video coverage – 99% of which will be used against the police – it boggles the mind as to how these (admittedly small percentage of) policemen are behaving and responding.

    I just don’t get it. Who would willingly subject themselves to this unless there is some underlying motivation? And what might that motivation be? Real racism? A real pathological bloodlust? Monetary compensation from a dark source that will ensure a non conviction, a new identity, coverage of all legal fees and a relocation via a Dem DOJ next year when all this ‘unrest’ and “mostly peaceful protest” mysteriously goes away with a Trump defeat? (Just like “Occupy Wall street” went away after ‘the One’ won reelection in 2012.)

    I refuse to believe that all these rotten apple cops are coming out of the woodwork all at this time – it is all just too suspicious, too coincidental, and too contrived to be spontaneous.

    1. Nabi Rasch - June 14, 2020

      Sorry, but a lot of cops like to brutalize people. It’s just a fact. I’m not willing to swallow all the BS dogma being pushed by many ‘conservative’ sites. Some of them are getting as bad as the leftarded BSers. Once you look at the latest video you can see that the cop was enjoying baiting the poor dweeb. What should have been a simple misdemeanor with a citation and quick impound ended in a homicide. Even makes me wonder if maybe there was an element of racism.

      1. Silas - June 14, 2020

        Sorry, but you sir/madam appear to be a troll.

        “Sorry, but a lot of cops like to brutalize people. It’s just a fact.”

        Care to really back that up? And don’t go all “It’s all on the interwebs, just google it:”
        because I just don’t buy that line of tripe. Put up or shut up.

        What happened was beyond reasonable. But you are using a broad brush to paint a lot of good, solid citizens who’re serving our public to prevent crime and bring to justice those who commit crimes against us and our society.

  3. phineas gage - June 14, 2020

    According to the video, the perp, drunk or not, grabbed the officer’s taser and pointed it at him not once, but twice.

    1. phineas gage - June 14, 2020

      I posted a couple of other comments on the thread below, but I won’t repeat them here.

    2. David Blackmon - June 14, 2020

      The man was shot 3 times in the back. Sorry, but sort of pointing a taser from 30 feet away while he was running away doesn’t justify that in any way, shape or form. The cop panicked and got angry and murdered the guy. Sorry, but we have to stop trying to rationalize crap like this.

      1. phineas gage - June 14, 2020

        I’m not trying to rationalize anything, but in the moment in relative darkness can the officer reliably discriminate that it is a taser and not a gun being aimed at him? I wouldn’t want to be my life on it. I agree that the officer panicked, but I don’t see how it qualifies as premeditated murder.

        A lot of these incidents would not happen if violent behavior was not endemic in the minority community.

        I’m fairly certain if the officer involved was a minority so it didn’t fit the narrative that this would not have been nearly as big of a story.

      2. creolecat01 - June 14, 2020

        Hmmm…sounds like you know nothing about violence being thrust upon you? You know a taser fires projectiles at significant velocity right? So cop just supposed to take a projectile possibly to eye? How about don’t resist arrest and you live to drink another day and cop goes home too! Heck you do this and you can even go purchase your very own taser to play with!

    3. jack johnson - June 14, 2020

      Not sure who wrote the “Atlanta cop shooting” piece but whoever did is delusional. I watched the entire body cam of the incident along with other on scene videos. No way this cop should have been fired.

      The patience and respect they showed this idiot is way past what I would have given. The Chief SHOULD resign for not backing her officer in this shooting. This is disgraceful.

      1. Silas - June 14, 2020

        No matter how much respect they showed, chasing somebody and shooting them in the back, when the officer’s life was not in imminent danger is not excusable.

        1. jack johnson - June 14, 2020

          He shot the cop with the taser he took from them. If that cop becomes incapacitated what then? It doesn`t matter where he was shot, that is the most ridiculous argument there is. He is running and he reaches back and fires the taser at the cop chasing him where do you think the bullets will hit.

          Here is a tip for black people….stop committing crimes and resisting police, 99.9% chance you will live to see tomorrow where you stand a higher likelihood of being killed by another black.

  4. phineas gage - June 14, 2020

    By this time it is clear that the CDC numbers are fabricated as necessary to advance a political agenda.

    They can scream all they want, Trump has moved on and there are not going to be any further national shutdowns. Just many raucous rallies,. The blue states can languish in their economic hellholes, and the media can suck it.

  5. phineas gage - June 14, 2020

    ‘These cities will all be looking like re-runs of 1980s Detroit soon.’

    Actually, they will soon look more like Mogadishu.

  6. Cynthia - June 14, 2020

    According to video footage of the Atlanta incident, the person under arrest stole an officer’s taser and ran away, then turned the taser on police. You just can’t fix stupid.

    1. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

      I’m just wondering how he got shot three times in the back then.

      I’m with Dave here.

    2. David Blackmon - June 14, 2020

      He was shot in the back 3 times. There was no reason or justification for that at all. None. Nada. Nothing will ever get any better at all in our society until good people like you stop bending over backwards to invent ways to justify killings like this.

      1. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

        I agree completely.

      2. Cynthia - June 15, 2020

        Respectfully disagree. There is video evidence of him stealing a taser and using it against the police as he’s running away.

        1. brian - June 15, 2020

          Thats whats great about this site Cynthia, is that you can have a differing opinion and you won’t be overtly flamed and piled on. You’ll have disagreements, some passionately, but never maliciously trashed.

          Good hearing your stance… Although I don’t agree with it… 🙂

  7. brian - June 14, 2020

    IMO the Electoral College model works great. Here in Canukdom we have no such model for evening out the voter overweight that cities impose on the rest of the country.

    Would it not be better to have the same representation within the State as the Electoral College presents nationally??? Then the cities within the State wouldn’t be deciding what the rest of the State does thereby providing better representation for all. yes/no??

    The trouble I see is that the communists flock to cities, capturing them and you capture the State and eventually the country. See Dem controlled States for examples. Cities are strong communist holdouts while rural is conservative leaning.

    1. phineas gage - June 14, 2020

      Yes, but only those states with huge densely populated cities. The more rural states still get electoral college representation. All the states also have equal representation in the Senate ( senators were originally selected by state legislatures). That was the genius of the Founders to prevent tyranny of either the minority or the majority.

      The mechanism has worked pretty well up until now, but the modern Left has been trying to break it for more than a century and perhaps will finally succeed.

      1. brian - June 14, 2020

        I understand the national Electoral College in that it evens the playing field for national representation. ie Senate .

        What I’m saying is apply the Electoral College at the State level as well. This would ensure equal representation at the State level. But you could count on Dems fighting this tooth and nail.

    2. Gregg - June 14, 2020

      A system like that may help, but we just have to get the red (Trump) and purple (50-50 suburban) counties to vote 80+% for Trump and the GOP congressional candidates to overcome the 110% (of inner-city voter fraud where 90+% of the vote always goes Dem) of the actual population who “vote” in the blue cities.

      None of the safeguards that we have written about here will matter if 40+% of the electorate remains stuck on stupid, and there is no penalty for mucking up election after election by the county election commissions.

      In a sane world, Joe Figurehead and all the rest of these Dem ‘leaders’ shouldn’t get 20% of the vote. Therein lies the problem Brian.

      1. phineas gage - June 14, 2020

        It’s not unique to our system, it”s human nature. The British, after all, voted the greatest leader of the 20th century out of office shortly after WWII.

  8. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

    Just listened to a Youtube video of the murder of the Romanov family; if we don’t put an end to this soon, it’s going to get out of hand in larger cities. Stimulus checks are temporary; restoring damaged small business is crucial.

    But the difference now is that Prickster and Nurse Ratched and the Chicago Smurf and the nitwit Governor from Washington State are the most likely to be lined up in a basement against a wall somewhere, and they’ll surrender very quickly if their homes are surrounded Few people who have CC permits are going to go out of their way to defend them if the riots come to these incompetent leaders’ domiciles.

    Likewise, those of us Conservatives are no longer carrying the water for billionaires who have shown every intention of putting us under the Leftist boot, selling out both jobs and security to the Chinese, and helping Soros and bankers and the CDC/PIG Pharma put us into one kind of lockdown or another

    You have a problem in your gated community? Most won’t be available to help. And big city police unions will not allow their members to hire out as private security for DeBlowsio and others.

    Caveat Venditor, idiots.

  9. Silas - June 14, 2020

    So, another white police officer kills a black suspect. And again, it didn’t have to end this way.
    Let’s be clear here, a TASER is not a firearm. It’s a stun gun that shoots two wired darts into the skin of the targets and zaps them with 50,000 volts. It’s only deadly if a person has a heart condition or defibrillator.

    So, the individual ran away, points a nonlethal force device at the officer then turns to continue running away. The officer then draws his weapon and shoots the fleeing suspect in the back. It’s bad, no matter how you try to cut it. The officer was not in imminent danger.

    My Mom was a big fan of PD Live or what ever it was called. I sat and watched many hours with her. In nearly every instance where a runner was involved they chased him down, tackled them and cuffed them. This usually resulted in the arrested person getting banged up a little, but they were alive. So my take away from this was don’t resist and don’t run. He did both but he still didn’t deserve to be shot in the back.

    1. phineas gage - June 14, 2020

      That’s assuming in the heat of the moment the officer knew it was a taser being pointed at him. These are split-second decisions that I wouldn’t want to be making.

      1. Silas - June 14, 2020

        The taser clearly has a flash light mounted on the front, it’s bright yellow. They are made bright yellow to ensure they can’t be mistaken for a hand gun. The parking lot is lit up enough to clearly see this in the video. The officer chasing him has one in his hand. If he can’t differentiate that from a hand gun, then he shouldn’t be wearing a badge in the first place.

        I realize that people in a high stress situation can sometimes see things that aren’t really there or make bad call due to adrenaline and the unknown. Things happen fast in those situations. A lack of training or poor training for these types of situations is why we have this kind of outcome. The training should be bi-monthly at the least, so everything stays fresh in their minds.

        He was fleeing. They should have called for more back up and chased him down. Now a man is dead and two more are ruined.

        1. phineas gage - June 14, 2020

          Thanks, Silas. Things I didn’t know. I have come around to your viewpoint, but I still think it is an incredibly difficult situation to be in.

          1. Silas - June 14, 2020

            Absolutely it’s difficult. And that’s why they need some intensive, repetitive training for these kinds of situations so they have a good skill set to help to reduce the kind of outcomes we keep getting.

            Years ago, I saw a report on one of Portland’s local new stations regarding the fact the Portland Police Bureau has a high tech training system that all officers are required to go through. I think they said it’s annual training. It is a life sized video interactive system and it’s pretty intense.

            They got this as part of a settlement with the DOJ to reduce the number officer related shootings. It was a reality back in the 70s and 80s that if you ran from a Portland officer and turned around for any reason, gun in your hand or not, you were going to end up wounded or dead.

  10. Gregg - June 14, 2020

    Wouldn’t a lot of this police “brutality” be stopped if the perps would just surrender and follow the police instructions? I’m not trying to be Pollyannish here, but there is lawbreaking going on in most of these instances. The near total lack of respect and support by the thinly veiled anarchists who run these blue cities and states, and the always negative ‘coverage’ by the drive-by media bear a lot of responsibility for the overall anti-police, anti law and order attitude of many of these victims.

    The revolving door ‘justice’ system where the violent criminals are released over and over again is another major problem. If I remember the stats correctly about 90% of police arrests involve the same five percent of the population.

    I am not in any way condoning or trying to justify these killings by the police, but I don’t see riots happening nationwide when cops got killed and or ambushed by the criminal element which happened fairly regularly under ‘the One’s’ anti-cop administration, and still happen now.

    My father and grandfather were cops and when I saw how the police vs the criminal element were being treated and reported on in the sixties’ riots, I knew right then and there I never wanted to be a cop.

    I suspect these police shooting incidents will dramatically drop in the near future as the individual officers (good, bad, or indifferent) will just find themselves in other areas of their jurisdictions when the SHTF. And they will have a built in excuse since they will all be undermanned when the PD funding gets cut, and a lot of good cops just quit in utter disgust. I know from my own work experience, when budget cuts are made and the morale goes to hell, the good people leave an organization in disproportionate numbers and the organization will retain a greater proportion of the ‘bad’ employees.

    Defunding PDs will only exacerbate the situation and the mayors and city councilmembers full well know this, and that is the plan, at least while the Bad Orange Man is in the WH.

    1. Silas - June 14, 2020

      As I posted above, the Live PD show really drilled into my head that should I ever find myself in a situation with the police, I will cooperate and not resist or run. It just isn’t worth making things worse than it already is.

  11. Bruce - June 14, 2020

    What happens if the cop is incapacitated by the taser? How does the cop know where the guy is running, maybe to get a weapon from his car? People cannot expect to be safe when they engage an officer in a physical altercation. There is coming a day when police will refuse to arrest criminals and maybe even serve on the force. It is a no win job.

    1. phineas gage - June 14, 2020

      Agree. The cop overreacted, but these guys have to be out there in this environment putting their lives on the line every day for not much money. As you say, pretty soon no one will do it anymore.

      1. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

        Shooting someone in the back is cowardly. Maybe that’s how you’d fight your battles, but it’s not legitimate.

        1. phineas gage - June 14, 2020

          Please read, Jimmy, and don’t make unkind comments. I show respect to you.

          I said the cop overreacted in a split-second decision where a suspect was aiming something at him in the dark. I’m not saying it was proper, I’m saying it wasn’t murder. It’s a very difficult job and things went bad.

          1. David Blackmon - June 14, 2020

            To also be clear: I’m also not yet saying it is murder. What I am saying is that it is certainly not acceptable police procedure, and that it is absolutely mind-boggling that this specific killing would take place immediately following two weeks of national riots – including in Atlanta – over a similar police killing. Truly inexplicable and not something we should accept or try to excuse.

          2. phineas gage - June 15, 2020

            Well, the ME is now calling it homicide. We’ll see if the DA wants to go that route.

    2. Silas - June 14, 2020

      I read an article about the Seattle Police Department. They are at 60% of their capacity. They can’t recruit enough quality people. The have officers either going lateral to another department of retiring early. I also sent a link to Dave for an article written a by a career LEO addressing the current situation. Word Press wouldn’t let me post if for some reason. It addresses the issue of the way the police are treated today and what the future portends for law enforcement. He put it bluntly: the day will come when there are no more police because there will be nobody who wants the job, for any amount of money.

  12. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

    Here’s a positive concept – from Lynchburg, Virginia!

    “The Lynchburg Police Department has reportedly banned the use of chokehold techniques for at least the last 50 years. In fact, police say sworn employees are prohibited from using a chokehold or any type of neck restraint unless they are authorized to employ deadly force.”

    https://www.wfxrtv.com/news/local-news/lynchburg-police-implements-modifications-to-duty-to-intervene-expectations-body-camera-systems/

    “However, Lynchburg police officers’ use of force protocol also means sworn employees reportedly have a “duty to intervene” to protect both the members of the public and the members of the department. More specifically, officials say:

    Statement from the LPD:

    “It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required.”
    “It shall be the duty of every sworn employee who witnesses inappropriate action by another officer to report that inappropriate action as soon as possible.”’

    Our local PD is professional, courteous and capable; once in awhile bad judgement is used, but that is the exception. The City has a program that involves citizen advisors and the LPD to help prevent misunderstandings and inadvertent miscommunication.

    Also note: we don’t have unions, so it’s relatively easy to get rid of the psychopaths and maladjusted types who sometimes look for positions of authority. Big cities with unions are helpless to remove then bad guys who pretend to be policemen and women. This isn’t isolated to police; it’s why big cities spend so much on education with less-then-zero results.

    1. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

      “Police say they have spoken with their Community Policing Advisory Group (CPAG) and members of the Lynchburg community over the last week — and will continue to meet regularly — in order to find new ways to improve the department and engage the community.” (WFXR)

      I know some of the people on the force, and some of the people on the advisory group. Good people, best intentions, solution oriented.

  13. Sir Cumference - June 14, 2020

    BLN = Burn, Loot, Murder

  14. T. Porter - June 14, 2020

    I’m gonna go out on a limb and say the last thing that officer was thinking about, was the social impact the situation was going to have on society, as he was following the training he had, to make a split second decision to save his and his partners life as a man pointed (and fired) a gun at them! Guns that fire projectiles are “Real guns”, they just fire different types of projectiles. (Even pop guns are real guns). If this man would have not broke the law and drove drunk, not broke the law and wrestled and assaulted the police, not broke the law and stole their taser weapon, not broke the law and fled the scene, not attempted to shoot the officer, he would still be alive. (Period) I’m so sorry for his family that he was an idiot not to take care of his business like a grown and civil member of society. Justified shooting. Don’t act like that, stay alive- Real simple!

    1. Silas - June 14, 2020

      Please read my post above about Tasers. THEY NOT A FIREARM. They are considered a non-lethal device and almost all LEOs carry them. The victim/perp, pointed it at him then turned and ran. I reviewed the security camera video numerous times before posting about this. They could have called in for more back up and ran this guy down. There was no need for lethal force.

      Yes, the officer no doubt had adrenaline pumping at high speed and was reacting out instinct. But his instincts over rode his self awareness of the situation. It’s a lack of training or poor training in high stress situations like this that end up having a bad outcome.

      1. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

        Yeah, three shots to the back are more than adrenaline dump. More like rage.

        1. Silas - June 14, 2020

          Exactly

  15. Gregg - June 14, 2020

    And the chief resigned over this? In a big city like Atlanta?

    Something seems real fishy about this.

    There must be more to this story.

    If any chief should have resigned it should be the Minneapolis chief for allowing the assigning of rookies to the cop with 18 complaints. Or the chief of the Seattle PD, at least in protest to the mayor. How are the chiefs putting up the anti-cop de Bozos of the world?

  16. T. Porter - June 14, 2020

    Silas, I read your post. I won’t argue the semantics of what the taser is. It fires projectiles and it is designed to bring one into submission or stop a threat.This man demonstrated his total disregard for authority and might have used that taser on; I don’t know, your mother, my mother, a pregnant woman, to jack a car to make a get-away from the police since he had crossed the line numerous times already. Bottom line is he is dead because of HIS one bad action after another. At anytime before he pointed the taser at the officer he could have submitted to the authority (We as a society entrust the police) and lived. He chose not to. I also disagree with you, respectfully, about the policeman in that they ARE taught to fire when you point a weapon at them. Again I won’t argue what you constitute as a weapon. If you attack a policeman with a knife you are apt to be justifiably shot dead. So to as weapon that can be fired at them and could incapacitate. Weapons are just that, weapons.

    1. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

      Police are NEVER taught to shoot people in the back, unless there are extreme circumstances (eg saving the life of a hostage.)

    2. Silas - June 14, 2020

      I do not dispute that Mr. Brooks made bad decisions. But, the use of deadly force in this case did not match the perceived threat. And as I said, he was running away from the officer, not charging him. The officer shot him in the back as he was fleeing. I have watched the video several times prior to my making any posts on this issue. Their body cams are only part of the story. The security camera shows the chase and shooting event as it unfolded. Not sure which video you saw, but I saw the raw footage the Georgia Bureau of Investigations released. It’s clear that Mr
      Brooks is running away.

      I will tell you this, I have firearms. I understand that I may have to use one of them at any time to defend myself, my wife or my home. I am working on my concealed carry license. The Oregon State Sheriffs Association has an online class. One of the first things you learn in this class is that if an individual that was threatening you starts to run away, you are not justified in using deadly force. Mr Brooks was running away, i would not be able to defend myself in court under Oregon law if I had done what this officer did.

      No matter how you try to twist it, the officer was wrong in shooting him the back as Mr. Brooks ran away. I have watched the video many times and I still don’t see where Mr Brooks was a threat that justified him being shot.

      1. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

        Nailed it.

      2. T. Porter - June 15, 2020

        Silas I’m not spinning it one way or another! I am stating facts! I have not said it was right, only that I believe it was [legally justified] . I also have a LTC, in TX, since it became a thing in TX in the early 90s. I also am an avid gun owner, shooter, hunter. Match point! Even a fleeing suspect when he is threatening an officer, can be put down with deadly force. It’s the one caveat to not shooting someone in the back; or… It doesn’t matter which direction the perp is facing when he is shooting at you, you are allowed to return fire. If your going to make the decision to shoot at the police, you should make sure you have superior firepower.

  17. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

    All of these events have just made life unbearable for the noble men and women in Law Enforcement. Dangerous enough as it is, without idiots making them into a target.

    I’ve posted this before, and apparently no one gave a shit about the post – because it deserved consideration: the Stanford Prison Experiment:

    In the experiment, the professor chose two groups – random choices, not based upon personality types or profiles. One half would be prison guards, the other prisoners. It was to be a 2 week study, but it got out of hand and ended early.

    The “guards” took their positions far too seriously, and the “prisoners” did too. It became an exercise in cruelty, abuse of power and resultant rebellion. Look it up; most cops know about this, because they’re trained in psychology and most will be familiar with this study.

    https://www.simplypsychology.org/zimbardo.html

    From the article, a video:
    https://youtu.be/fQnOkmvigi0

    1. Silas - June 14, 2020

      I did look it up and read the Cliffs Notes version. I just don’t have the patience to wade through a lot of studies and reports these days. Your posts are always informative and I appreciate them greatly. Just didn’t think to give to you some feedback on it.

      And what the study revealed didn’t surprise me in the least. Human nature being what it is.

  18. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

    It should be required reading for anyone who automatically takes sides in cases like these, or who makes race the issue. Remember that officers killed a man – a white male, infantile, schizophrenic, and off his medication and admittedly using a small amount of cocaine – who called them for help because he was terrified.

    He had always lionized Law Enforcement, and thought they were there to help. Until the mocked him as they killed him, much like George Floyd: his name was Tony Timpa.

    .https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=tonytony+timpa+video&docid=608006402052327422&mid=89F6B57A074166355F7F89F6B57A074166355F7F&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

    1. Silas - June 14, 2020

      And the MSM band played on. God has a special place for all those who kill people under the color of law.

      https://youtu.be/2LE0KpcP05I

      1. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

        Yes, the Red Sea holds their remains, right? Down to the last wagon wheel.

  19. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

    I don’t want my friends to get hurt; they joined for noble reasons. Same with President Trump: he joined for noble reasons. Most others? Power they can hold over others.

    I’ve watched as authority figures abused people throughout my life, including Barberton police chief cursing my mother and making her cry, around 1963. He was a bully – and I’ve seen and known lots of those types. Lots and lots of them.

    I know what it’s like – to see abusers keep abusing, not a single impediment to their behavior, because they wore either a badge or a white coat; I understand the rage people feel when they know that the abusers will never be held accountable – the sick bastards who abuse them get away with rape, murder, corruption, fraud…

    Most of us look at those who have been trying to bring down the President, including high officials in the FBI, DOJ, CIA, DIA and others, and we know they’ve abused their authority, they’ve abused our Constitution, they’ve abused the law, and they’ve abused President Donald J. Trump..

    In a manner of speaking, they (with the help of the press) are still raping the President daily, and also Roger Stone, General Flynn,, and so many others. What these former top officials are doing to Trump associates is just a scaled-up version of what happened to George Floyd and Tony Timpa and others.

    For those who lionize all Law Enforcement and authority, don’t stop there: look at times when they didn’t do their jobs at all – Cowards of Broward, who failed to do their duty and allowed 17 innocent people to die. No, these officials didn’t act excessively: they didn’t act at all!.

    Stop assuming that a badge or a uniform or a 7th floor office or a security clearance is some indication of merit or excellence. Deal with the bad ones as you would a criminal, because that is what they are, and don’t assume the people they charge are actual criminals.

    Have we learned nothing from General Flynn?
    .

    1. Silas - June 14, 2020

      I hear you brother!

      1. Silas - June 14, 2020

        In my younger days I used to hang out at a particular bar. One day I was sitting next to an old crusty biker who said he was a Hells Angel. We got to talking and I called him brother. He looked me in the eye and said “You ain’t my brother” telling me I wasn’t a Hells Angel. I looked him right back in the eye and said “in God’s eye we’re all brothers.” He laughed, slapped me on the back and we had another beer together.

        He always treated me with respect after that and I returned the respect. It’s always about respect. No matter who you are. If everybody would just be a little more humble and respect one another what a world we could have.

        1. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

          Amen – brother!

        2. Jimmy MacAfee - June 14, 2020

          You remind me…

          I stopped going to seedy little beer joints when I got tired of jumping in and pulling people off each other, and in one case, to keep a man from putting his girlfriend’s face through a pinball machine and pulling him off the bar manager when they kept letting him loose (or making me let him loose.)

          I was always just dumb enough to jump in to stop the crap, smart enough to stop going to those places.

          1. Silas - June 14, 2020

            Heh heh! Yes, we have learned that some lost causes should be just be just that, lost causes. I had a lot of good friends in that joint I used to hang out at. But a lot of folks frittered away their lives there too.

            When I met my wife all those places faded away. I miss my friends, but none of the cr@p that went with those places.

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