Devin Nunes Warns America About the FBI and the FISA Courts

Today’s Campaign Update
(Because The Campaign Never Ends)

The most important video clip from Sunday morning’s talk shows were not the clips of the insipid Chris Wallace interviewing crooked James Comey and Bug-eyes Schiff. – Those were predictably soft-balled affairs conducted by a sympathetic hack who would be better at home on CNN or MSNBC. As a result of Wallace’s willingness to allow his two subjects to filibuster and deflect without any effective followup questioning, those interviews revealed nothing of real value.

No, the most important video clip from Sunday was Maria Bartiromo’s interview of California Republican Devin Nunes, who pulls no punches on the FBI, the DOJ, the FISA court and its judges, and on Comey.  First, the clip, which is eight minutes long, followed by a partial transcript of the highlights of Nunes’ remarks [Bartiromo’s questions/comments are paraphrased for brevity]:

 

Transcript:

Bartiromo: In March 2018, you came out with what is referred to as the Nunes Memo. That memo laid out the facts about the House Intelligence Committee’s findings in its investigation into the Justice Department’s abuse of the FISA process. Now we know that everything you said in that memo is true, thanks to the IG report. After you came out with that memo, you were mocked by the Democrats and the Media. Adam Schiff came out with his own memo disputing everything you had said. Tell us about the letter you sent to Adam Schiff this morning.

Nunes: Well, first off, we need to have a hearing with IG Horowitz next week. The longer that this goes on, the longer it takes for America to heal itself. The FISA court itself is in tremendous jeopardy. We cannot support the FISA court right now. The judges are refusing to take action against these dirty cops and dirty lawyers who did this.

That’s totally unacceptable, because remember, this is a secret court. The people who, like Carter Page, they have no recourse except for congress. This is why the House Intel Committee and Senate Intel Committee were created.

So, it’s important to take people back. It wasn’t just that we learned about this in February of 2018; House Republicans learned about this in the spring of 2017, at least the initial part, that the dossier had been used, the Clinton paid-for dirt. We then proved that the Clintons did pay for it, and the DNC did pay for it, in the Fall of 2017, and we knew that we had to get this information out to the American public. And that’s what led to us producing this memo in February of 2018, that the media helped cover up for it.

To get back to normalcy in this country we need a free and fair press, but we don’t have that today. We still have numerous members of the media – hundreds of them – who attack not only House Republicans for putting this out, but anyone else in the media who said, hey, maybe the Republicans have a point here, should’t we get to the bottom of it?

And remember, we spent a year saying these documents need to be declassified, and that would have ended it there. But instead, what happened is that the Democrats lied, and now they have put the American people in tremendous danger. The judges on the FISA court are putting the American people in danger.

The American people at the end of the day, we are not going to give up our liberty in order to have some court spy on political campaigns, and to use our counterintelligence capabilities to do that.

Bartiromo: One thing that we did not hear from the IG report was anything that happened before July, 2016. Jim Comey continues to claim the FBI launched its counterintelligence investigation in July, 2016. Yet, there is all this operational activity before that. We had informants running against Carter Page and George Papadopoulous as early as March. What can you tell us about this?

Nunes: Yeah, we are unsure about why Horowitz was unable to figure out what happened pre-July 31. But remember, the dirty cops at the FBI and the DOJ, over the last couple of years hid that from congress also. They would answer no questions. So, right there you have obstruction of a congressional investigation that ought to be held at the highest level, all of those people who blocked us from getting that information. Especially if we find out later that the FBI was involved in it.

Here’s what we know right now: We know that the spy ring that was created to target Carter Page, George Papadopoulous, Trump Campaign officials, this big spy ring that was spying on the Trump Campaign…before the FISA application in October, this was in August and September 2016, they’re getting miked up to record the conversations with the Trump Campaign members.

That same spy ring was already operational in Spring and early Summer of 2016. So look, I don’t know if the FBI was running it, I don’t know if some other government agency was running it, I don’t know if some foreign government was operating it. I mean, hell, for all I know, it was Putin and Russia and the Ukrainians since that seems to be the blame for everything that happens wrong at the FBI, the DOJ or the Democratic Party when they lose elections.

I don’t know who the hell was running the spy ring, but I want to know, and the American people need to know, and that’s what John Durham is trying to figure out and I’m glad he’s there.

Bartiromo: Give us an update on your libel lawsuit against CNN. Last time we asked you – a week and a half ago – you had served them in the suit but you hadn’t heard back from them. Give us an update on that.

Nunes: Well, as predicted, they’re refusing to come to the table to work this out. And the defamation and the reckless disregard for the truth continues. Remember: Any Republican who didn’t go along with media narrative first was accused of being in the Putin puppets and Russian spies. Now, if you talked to a Ukrainian, that’s a problem, and if you talked to the former Mayor of New York, Rudy Giuliani, that’s an even bigger problem. You can’t make this stuff up.

But what CNN did, and the timing that they did that to create tremendous damage not only to me, but to my fellow Republicans in congress, this was to create a new media narrative that Republicans couldn’t be trusted because we were having secret meetings in Vienna with shady Ukrainians, ok? Great story, CNN, it’s great for Hollywood, it would be great for some sitcom at Fox possibly, but when it’s…

Bartiromo: You haven’t had heard back from them…

Nunes: …it didn’t happen.

Bartiromo: Before you go, Comey is out this morning saying ‘I was wrong. I was overconfident in the procedures that the FBI and Justice had built over 20 years. I thought they were robust enough – it’s incredibly hard to get a FISA, and I was confident in those. But he was right, and there was real sloppiness. 17 things that should have been in the application or were discussed should have been characterized differently, and it was unacceptable.’ This is what Comey is saying this morning.

Nunes: Yeah, well, look, Comey, who cares what he says, right? He already knew that the Dossier was salacious and unverified, at least that’s what he testified to us in early 2017. He knew that had been used in the FISA, he knew that what he called it in Bret Baier’s interview, he called it a ‘mosaic of facts,’ he knew what the rest of those facts were. He knew that it was the dirty Dossier, he knew it was fake news articles that were planted by Fusion GPS and Democrat operatives, and he knew the spying had already occurred.

Bartiromo: So he lied.

Nunes: Perhaps the only thing he didn’t know was there was exculpatory evidence, that would be the only thing, but he knew the rest of it. I mean, he’s lied so many times, you could take a whole IG report and make about a thousand pages of the Comey lies.

Bartiromo: Congressman, it’s good to see you this morning.

[End]

The main thing to know about Nunes is that he, more than any other member of congress, knows where all the bodies are buried in all of this, and he is obviously getting tired of the long and drawn out process of getting the truth out to the American people. Schiff also knows where most, if not all of those bodies are buried, but as we have seen, Schiff is just focused on lying about all of it to protect his political party and the deep state dirty cops at the FBI.

This interview was the guy who knows more than anyone else about all of this sounding the alarm to the public about the FISA courts and what he calls the “dirty cops” who abuse them to spy on American citizens. We ignore his warnings at our own peril.

That is all.

Today’s news moves at a faster pace than ever. Whatfinger.com is my go-to source for keeping up with all the latest events in real time.

 

 

28 thoughts on “Devin Nunes Warns America About the FBI and the FISA Courts

  1. phineas gage - December 16, 2019

    One gets the feeling that Nunes has been waiting a long time to unleash himself in this way upon his enemies. Also notable is the letter he wrote to the House Intelligence Committee which outright accuses Schiff of dereliction of duty and posits that he needs psychiatric help. All true.

    The moment and the man were well met in Devin Nunes.

    1. Jimmy MacAfee - December 16, 2019

      Amen to that, too!

  2. Jimmy MacAfee - December 16, 2019

    Glad to see Wray’s picture among the other conspirators.

    Looks like the IG report said all it needed to say – other than the conclusion. As mentioned before, the conclusion seemed to be written personally by Chris Wray or one of his comrades close to him. Horowitz – whom I’ve characterized somewhat unfairly – has demonstrated the limits of his power.

    Wray’s agreement with the conclusion reads like a trap, allowing him to expose himself as a Deep State weasel.

    Nunes has been a hero throughout all this. If he weren’t so valuable in his present capacity, he’d make a fine Director of the FBI.

    1. Cameron Howe - December 16, 2019

      Agree 100% with Nunes being exactly where he is needed.

      I expected Trey Gowdy to get the job as FBI director at the beginning of this year, when he left Congress. He’s probably making too much easy money on the media circuit to bother with subjecting himself to that viper pit though.

      Maybe after the election, one can hope.

      1. phineas gage - December 16, 2019

        I thought he was serving as presidential counsel.

        1. Cameron Howe - December 17, 2019

          My bad, I thought he’d been serving as a Fox news contributor, but looks like you are more up to date than me:

          “(Gowdy) has since joined the law firm Nelson Mullins Riley & Scarborough,[8] and also joined Fox News as a contributor.[9] In October 2019, he announced he was joining President Donald Trump’s legal team and because of conflict of interest would no longer serve as a contributor to Fox News.[10] However, Gowdy’s proposed move to join the lawyers defending Trump was scuttled a few days later over concerns that he would be acting in violation of anti-lobbying laws.”

    2. Gregg - December 16, 2019

      Jimmy, the only real problem I have with Horowitz is how long he/it takes to complete and disseminate his factual. but vanilla reports.

      If the IG position in all areas of government is so ineffective, bureaucratic, and feeble then it is time to either reform and strengthen its investigatory scope and powers, or eliminate the office and leave rule/law enforcement to a law enforcement agency totally divorced from the agency in question. It is a known and proven fact that an organization cannot effectively investigate, or police itself. We can’t have the DOJ investigating these 17 FISA “mistakes” and we can’t have the congressional “ethics” committees investigating themselves.

      Perhaps the US Marshals could investigate the FBI, NCIS the DOJ, Army CID investigate Congress and distant (non DC Swamp rat) lawyers be the special counsels with a very defined power and timeframe. It might still be a mess of corruption, but maybe, just maybe, another set of less conflicted eyes might, just might, improve the “investigative” and actual law enforcement process.

  3. Gregg - December 16, 2019

    SS-DD. I just hope and pray for and that President Trump, AG Barr, Prosecutor Durham, and the dozen or so prominent and brave GOP members of congress succeed in fighting this good fight. I also hope and pray the other 250 or so GOP members of congress grow a real backbone and unite to totally beat this cabal.

    No half-hearted “support”, no waiting to see which way the political wind blows on any given day, get off your collective butts and DO YOUR JOB! You guys are either all-in and will emerge as heroes, or remain on the sidelines and be defeated in detail by the Democratic-Communists whose only goal is to destroy the GOP and DEFEAT every non radical (including their “Moderates”). This is the hill to fight and die on. If you all stick together, you won’t die, but will emerge victorious. It is the equivalent of what the founding fathers faced against England’s King George III. The consequences for the future of our republic are just as grave.

    Fighting for Trump and America is not the Alamo, Wake Island, or the 1942 Philippines!. It is more like the Battle of the Bulge, Guadalcanal, or Midway. Get to it and save America for you and future generations.

    There is not one good reason not to support our president and the 63 million (and many more in 2020) people who voted for him, and you!

    1. Jimmy MacAfee - December 16, 2019

      amen

  4. alonzo1956 - December 16, 2019

    Thank You David
    You perform a vital service to America

    Heads up America! Nunes is telling you that you should fear for your and your children’s future. Nunes is getting the word out with a few other true Patriots. John Ratcliffe is another and CTH has an excellent article on how Democrat Senator Warner and Republican Burr blocked his appointment as head of the NSA, so they could keep evident corruption covered up. The SSCI was obviously corrupt when along with the DOJ, they DID NOT allow Wolfe to be prosecuted for leaking the Page FISA application to the press. This is OBVIOUSLY a much bigger coverup that appears to me to involve hundreds of people who should be in prison. This is a BIG deal and Barr and Durham will need to be watched as they are as likely to be a bandaid as they are actual prosecutors.

    1. Jimmy MacAfee - December 16, 2019

      One wonders: why is McConnell allowing Burr to remain as titular head of the Senate Intel committee? Burr is every bit as bad as Warner, except he’s pretending to be what he’s not. Warner, at least, is a snake in an open field, and can be run over by any convenient tractor. Metaphorically speaking.

      1. phineas gage - December 16, 2019

        It could be as simple as McConnell playing both sides like the savvy veteran politician he is. He is part of and benefits from the GOPe graft machine, so he keeps the corrupt Burr in place, but he also likes working with Trump on certain issues such as judges.

        Since he is probably not sure which way the Trump-Deep State battle will turn out, he is hedging his bets.

      2. phineas gage - December 16, 2019

        It’s interesting that sundance expresses doubts not only about Barr, but also Pompeo, which surprised me. Contends they are all part of a Deep State management operation to keep Trump in check–the idea being that it will be back to business as usual as soon as he is gone.

        It seems to me that a Senate committee ought not to be able block any oversight of their corrupt activities. I understand the value of separation of powers, but this critically weakens the President.

        1. alonzo1956 - December 16, 2019

          A few months ago I read an article questioning Pompeo’s motives and I don’t believe it was at CTH. When you think about who the SSCI let through the gates and people such as Wray and Haspel Sundance makes some sense. An as yet unnamed somebody at the DOJ is targeting Rudy and have indicted his Ukraine buddies. I am serious when I say I believe the numbers are in the hundreds, and it is in every branch of Government, including the uppermost military personnel. It looks to me like it is ALL of them.

          1. phineas gage - December 16, 2019

            I believe you are correct. That is what Trump is facing. I also believe this is why Barr is moving so cautiously.

  5. Jimmy MacAfee - December 16, 2019

    Phineas,
    Pompeo unlikely to be Deep S, because he was ineffective at CIA; Barr is effective, and is not likely to be a double agent for the Deep S.

    My observation is this: if Q’anon is so all-knowing (and there are indications that Q is indeed real) then perhaps Q needs to be consulted to see who is a Deep State operative and who is not, so that jackasses like McMasters won’t get hired to sensitive positions. (This means nominations, especially.) But that may be why there are so many “acting” positions, because the Deep S. won’t let non-Deep S. actors into the game.

  6. Jimmy MacAfee - December 16, 2019

    FISA as we know it should be dismantled. While Admiral Rogers went to the top of the court with evidence of wrongdoing, and though he and a certain judge (not Roberts) investigated, we aren’t seeing anything from it. Maybe some new FISA warrants against the promulgators of the corrupted warrants? That remains to be seen, and we wouldn’t see evidence of such. Rogers has been pivotal in prevention of the completion of the spying operation against President Elect and President Trump.

    Nunes hit the nail on the head, though, and if anyone thinks this is just a little game between different actors of the Deep S – (the way the uni-party system is rigged) – they only have to look at the attempted murder of Prosecutor Shokin in Ukraine:

    https://conservativeus.com/giuliani-bombshell-reveals-money-laundering-operation-involving-bidens-burisma/
    Rudy Giuliani’s tweet:

    “Witness Viktor Shokin:
    Holds doc’s proving money laundering by Burisma & Biden’s.
    Fired due to VP Biden’s threat not to release $1B in vital US aid.
    Shokin’s med records show he was poisoned, died twice, and was revived…”

    Spook Central: Ukraine.
    Boris is a key; transfer yard will include Steele and Associates.
    Giuliani holds a set of keys.

    .

  7. Jimmy MacAfee - December 16, 2019

    Below, DiGenova refers to the Obama administration’s use of “Section 702. DiGenova said:

    “He [Rogers] discovered the illegal spying. He went personally to the FISA Court and briefed the Chief Judge and worked with her for months to uncover the people who did it. The FISA Court has already told the Justice department who lied to that court and that has been given to [Attorney General] Bill Barr already.
    For more than four years before the election of Donald Trump, there was an illegal spying operation going on by FBI [private] contractors — four of them — to steal personal information, electronic information about Americans and to use it against the Republican Party.”
    https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/12/13/unsung-hero-admiral-mike-rogers-obama’s-nsa-chief-discovered-administration’s-‘702’-illegal-spying-operation-briefed-trump-surveillance-trump-tower/

    I’m sure Devin Nunes knows all this. His comments indicate that the FISA is deliberately stonewalling. And he’s adding a great big “or else” to his comments, an excerpt from DB’s transcript:

    “The FISA court itself is in tremendous jeopardy. We cannot support the FISA court right now. The judges are refusing to take action against these dirty cops and dirty lawyers who did this.”

    Conclusion: dismantle the FISA as we now know it. I agree.
    And prosecution of the “private contractors” DiGenova mentions has to be part of the solution.

  8. ray162 - December 16, 2019

    Chief Justice Roberts supervises the secret FISA court. Secret courts are unconstitutional. This one court is secret with the provision that the Chief Justice limit its power and enforce integrity with a ten year prison sentence for contempt of court. To date Chief Justice Roberts lacks the integrity to reveal the court records of contempt by the FBI coup cabal. Neither has he cited the perpetrators with contempt. Chief Justice Roberts owes us a resignation for lack of integrity. A chief justice of integrity is essential for the activities of an unconstitutional secret court.

    1. Jimmy MacAfee - December 16, 2019

      Rosemary Collyer, D.C. Presiding Judge FISA court. Term expires March 7, 2020.

      Secret courts are unconstitutional, but JFK warned us about this – including his warnings about “secret societies.” (Yale is an institution that should be bulldozed on that basis alone.) FISA has proven to be too dangerous an institution to be allowed to continue.

    2. Jimmy MacAfee - December 16, 2019

      Notice DiGenova said “she” in reference to the FISA judge. Not Roberts.

      1. phineas gage - December 16, 2019

        I agree with you that the FISA system needs to be either seriously restructured or dismantled entirely. It was an idea arising out of the aftermath of 9-11, just like DNI and Homeland Security, that have proven after the fact to be more harmful than helpful.

        You are entirely correct that secret courts are anathema to the constitutional order of this nation.

        The problem is, like any government bureaucracy or creation, it will be very hard to get rid of.

        O/T, I love the strategy that Trump is using to destroy parts of the deep state bureaucracy–simply relocate whole departments out of D.C. to the fly-over red country. The swamp creatures cannot abide it.

        1. Jimmy MacAfee - December 16, 2019

          “Relocate whole departments out of D.C. to the fly-over red country.”
          Now why would we do that to the poor folks in red country? (wink wink)

          I hear salt shot is a good for varmints, though I’ve neve used it.

          1. phineas gage - December 16, 2019

            I think the argument is that, for departments like Interior or Agriculture, it puts the policy-makers in the real world of implementation, and also is a regional economic positive, creating job opportunities as the swamp creatures leave

  9. Vetmike - December 16, 2019

    How can you trust anyone who willingly lies to a Judge when seeking a search warrant? How can you trust a Judge who, finding out he had been lied too, does not demand the head of those who perjured themselves? You can’t but we have no recourse. Well to ‘You’re Screwed’ Land.

    1. Jimmy MacAfee - December 16, 2019

      Yep.

  10. Jimmy MacAfee - December 17, 2019

    FISA fights back…against the FBI!

    https://therightscoop.com/breaking-fisa-court-rebukes-fbi-for-application-abuses-in-oig-report/

    “The FBI’s handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the OIG report, was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above. The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable,” federal Judge Rosemary Collier wrote in an opinion for the court published Tuesday.

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