William Barr Tosses Out Some Real, Live Bombs in MSNBC Interview

Today’s Campaign Update, Part II
(Because The Campaign Never Ends)

Ok, if you’re still sitting around worrying that Attorney General William Barr has gone all wobbly – even after yesterday’s pointed statements by he and U.S. Attorney John Durham in response to the IG Report – then I think I may have found your cure. Earlier today, MSNBC aired an interview involving one of their hack reporters and Attorney General Barr, and boy, is it epic. Mr. Barr is making no bones about his continued consistent views on what he bluntly still refers to as the “spying” on the Trump Campaign by the Obama FBI, and is not backing off even a little bit from his assessment of the contents of the IG Report.

Below is a clip of the first 3:17 of the interview, followed by a transcript. Watch and/or read, and if you don’t feel better after doing that, then I’m afraid there is nothing more I can do to help you.

 

Now, the Transcript, lovingly and laboriously prepared by we here at the Campaign Update for our audience made up mostly of voracious readers:

MSNBC Hack: Why do you say the FBI opened the investigation on the Trump Campaign on the “thinnest of suspicions?”

Barr: Well, I’m glad to get into the issue of predication, but let me just start out by saying that I think you have to put this in context. I think the heart of the IG’s report really focused on how the investigation was conducted once it got going, and that is especially the very serious abuses of FISA that occurred, much of which has in my view not been accurately reported by the press over the last day.

But, in one area I do disagree with the IG, and that was whether there was sufficient predication to open a full-blown counterintelligence investigation, specifically using the techniques that they did to collect intelligence about the Trump Campaign.

MSNBC Hack: W, w, well as a policy matter, why not open an investigation on a thin pretext? [Seriously???] I guess on the one hand you could say that it’s a presidential campaign, it’s very sensitive, you need better evidence. On the other hand, you could say, it’s a presidential campaign, we have to be very careful, it’s a threat to our political process.

Barr: I think probably from a civil liberties standpoint [Which liberals USED to be concerned about – remember?] the greatest danger to our free system is that the incumbent government use the apparatus of the state – principally the law enforcement agencies and the intelligence agencies – both to spy [!] on political opponents, but also to use them in a way that could affect the outcome of the election.

As far as I’m aware, this is the first time in our history that this has been done to a presidential campaign. The use of these counterintelligence techniques against a presidential campaign. And we have to remember, in today’s world, presidential campaigns are frequently in contact with foreign persons, and indeed, in most campaigns there are signs of illegal foreign money coming in [!!!].

And we don’t automatically assume that the campaigns are nefarious and traitors and acting in league with foreign powers. There has to be some basis before we use these very potent powers in our core first amendment activity.  And here, I felt this was very flimsy.

Basically, I think the Department has a “rule of reason” which is, at the end of the day, what you’re relying on – sufficiently powerful to justify the techniques you’re using. And the question there is, how strong is the evidence? How sensitive is the activity you’re looking at? And what are the alternatives?

I think when you step back here and say, what was this all based on?, it’s not sufficient.

Remember, there was and never has been any evidence of “collusion.” And yet, this campaign, and the President’s Administration has been dominated by this investigation into what turns out to be completely baseless.

[End]

Things to note in this:

  • Barr’s intentional and pointed use of the word “spy” to describe what the Coup Cabal did to the Trump Campaign. He knows this will cause Democrats and the media to fry their own brains. Epic.
  • Barr’s unqualified statement that “there was and never has been ANY evidence of ‘collusion.'” That tells you that he – and presumably also Durham – simply do not accept that there was ANY premise at all for operation “Crossfire Hurricane” to begin in the first place, nor was there ANY reason for the appointment of a special counsel, much less a two-year-long investigation by Mueller. That is bad, bad news for not just Comey, Strzok, Page and McCabe, but also for Mueller and Rosenstein, who made the decision to appoint Mueller based on…nothing.
  • Also very interesting is this statement’s phrasing: “… the greatest danger to our free system is that the incumbent government use the apparatus of the state…”. The use of the words “incumbent government” rather than the more limited “Department of Justice,” or the even  more limited “FBI” is very, very interesting, and implies that Barr and Durham are not limiting their investigation to those outside of the Obama White House, but may well be looking inside it as well. Boom, if so.
  • Then there’s the seemingly gratuitous noting of the fact that “…in most campaigns there are signs of illegal foreign money coming in.” Think about that one: Which two recent campaigns have been most prominent in having allegations of benefiting from foreign money? If you said “the Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton Campaigns,” you win the prize.

William Barr is a man with a well-earned history of choosing the words he uses carefully and with intent. He doesn’t just shoot his mouth off in public without giving a lot of forethought to exactly what the message is that he wants to convey.

There are a lot of very powerful messages directed at the bad actors from the Obama years in that short three-minute clip.

Those messages are also directed at those of you who still doubt Mr. Barr’s real intentions here. Are you listening?

Addendum: Here is another 57 seconds of that Barr interview and it is just as EPIC:

Transcript:

MSNBC Hack: So do you still stand by your statement that the Trump Campaign was spied upon?

Barr: [Incredulous that the question would even be asked.] Oh, it was CLEARLY spied upon. I mean, that’s what electronic surveillance is. I think wiring people up to go in and talk to people and make recordings of their conversations is spying. I think going through people’s emails, which they did as a result of the FISA warrant, they went through everything, you know, from Page’s life…

MSNBC Hack: Of course, he wasn’t in the campaign at the point where they got the surveillance…

Barr: [Even more incredulous at this raging hack.] No, but his emails go back. The main reason they were going for the FISA warrant initially was to go back historically and seize all his emails and texts and all that stuff from back – months and even years. So, they were covering the period when he was in the campaign and that’s exactly the reason they went for the FISA – to get that stuff.

[End]

Feeling better yet?

That is all.

 

 

 

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20 thoughts on “William Barr Tosses Out Some Real, Live Bombs in MSNBC Interview

  1. Gregg - December 10, 2019

    Today Rush is saying basically the same thing: Be patient and, to quote Oddball from the movie “Kelly’s Heroes” “Have a little faith baby”

    I will wait patiently for the wheels of justice…, and not make kneejerk comments – I’ll leave that for the MSM.

    The reality is that we have no choice but to trust Trump and his instincts, and Barr and Durham. My advice is to take a deep breath, exhale, and enjoy the holiday season. President Donald J. Trump seems to be doing just fine weathering the storm. He is not in any cowering or acting defensive; I’ll worry if and when that happens.

    Let the Dems continue to crap out on impeachment, ignore the MSM, and (really) pray for DJT, America and all the good things in our lives.

    1. Jimmy MacAfee - December 10, 2019

      I agree, and wish I had been a little more patient. (Not that I regret my comments about Horowitz’ bizarre summary, or about replacing Chris Wray.) The Attorney General is fighting with both fists and feet in this battle, as is John Durham, and they deserve the benefit of the doubt – they’ve earned it.

      I pray for their safety, their guidance and their success – and the same for the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump. Where we go one, we go all!

      1. phineas gage - December 10, 2019

        There was nothing wrong or inaccurate with your characterizations of Horowitz and Wray, but this was always going to come down, in the end, to Barr and his point man.

        Barr has pretty much acknowledged that is why he took the job in the first place. You can be sure that PDJT discussed this extensively with Barr before making the appointment.

      2. alonzo1956 - December 10, 2019

        Jimmy
        I basically feel the same way you do with regards to Horowitz and Wray should have been thrown out YESYERDAY! I do not have a good feeling about Barr at this point in time because it is too soon for me to tell how patriotic he is or he may just want to save the institutions. Time will tell.
        I pray for justice to be served.

      3. exexpat11 - December 10, 2019

        We had a 6 months delay in the IG Report which was basically a White Wash and Cover Up. “Well some people acted badly. Some might call it Treason. We recommend THREE STRIKES with the WET NOODLE. FBI Agents need to be taught about the Constitution. More Supervisors need to oversea Corrupt FBI Agents. New Forms need to be created and old ones altered. We need to hire some more Civil Servant Stamp lickers at the DOJ and FBI.”
        Patience? All out of Patience and it is half past time 4am Knocks Knocks with FBI SWAT Teams be visited on Comey, Stzrok, Page, Lynch, Orh (husband and wife), McCabe, Brennan, and Clapper. Put their nuts in a vise and see if they SING on Obama.

  2. Jonesy - December 10, 2019

    Breitbart has a longer version…starts about 2 minutes into the above video. Farther into the interview, he’s talking about the difference in the IG report (narrow) and Durham’s investigation (broad with more legal powers), Barr mentions that Comey did not apply to re-new his security clearance so the IG could not ask him about anything classified (wow). So much more – he seems pretty angry that the FBI did not tell the Trump campaign about what they were doing and withheld exculpatory evidence from the FISA court.

    I’m starting to feel better, dare I say……hopeful.

  3. henryandstuff - December 10, 2019

    If the spies had no evidence of wrong, no justification, yet fabricated a pretext to coup, then who gave the order to coup using info provided by an enemy state? The crime is treason. The penalty is death. The junta is large. We can spare the electricity to juice them all.

  4. delow241 - December 10, 2019

    Thank you for the transcript. We can only hope that Barr will actually take some action of consequence against the traitors who set us on this nightmare path we have been following for the past 3+ years.

  5. phineas gage - December 10, 2019

    Love your unique transcripts….

  6. phineas gage - December 10, 2019

    Who is the hack anyways? Pete Williams? It’s incredible how they are all the same–it’s like they roll off of an assembly line. Which I guess defines modern journalism schools fairly accurately.

    Watch the attacks on Barr and Durham mount now that it is clear that they are directly over the target.

    1. David Blackmon - December 10, 2019

      I have no idea, honestly. I recognize the face, but have no clue what his name is, and if he works for MSNBC he doesn’t not deserve my time to find out.

  7. phineas gage - December 10, 2019

    LOL (from over at Ace):

    *When it was pointed out that people were complaining that there had not been any arrests in this matter, Barr said, “Not yet.”

    *”I think our nation was turned on its head for three years based on a completely bogus narrative that was largely fanned and hyped by a completely irresponsible press,” Barr said.

    Sphincters tightening throughout D.C……

    1. Jimmy MacAfee - December 10, 2019

      Yes!

  8. Sharon Campbell - December 10, 2019

    Thank you, David, for this most welcome news in the Barr interview. I’m excited to think just maybe Barr & Durham are going to indict these criminals in our government & alphabet agencies!

  9. Don McCoy - December 10, 2019

    Spare me. Republicans are constantly tossing live bombs…lambasting…blasting…slamming…scortching Democrats…but nobody on the Left is ever indicted. Talk to me when Barr (or ANY of them) gets of his fat arse and DOES one single thing to rectify the situation.

  10. Jimmy MacAfee - December 10, 2019

    I believe the investigation into the Clinton Foundation is also on the plate; the Ukraine was, according to Zero Hedge, the biggest donor to the Clinton Foundation.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/federal-prosecutors-said-be-investigating-rudy-giuliani

    Ah, the tangled webs they weave!

    From the Hillary Clinton Chorus (not really) sung with all her collaborators:
    “What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.”

    I’ve seen Latrodectus Mactans webs more orderly and less chaotic than these – and yet, there is a kind of odd symmetry to the apparent chaos – for the spider herself: to the Black Widow, there is no confusion, and she never gets trapped in her own web. Not so, the Hillary spider. Caught in her own web of her own making.

  11. exexpat11 - December 10, 2019

    We had a 6 months delay in the IG Report which was basically a White Wash and Cover Up. “Well some people acted badly. Some might call it Treason. We recommend THREE STRIKES with the WET NOODLE. FBI Agents need to be taught about the Constitution. More Supervisors need to oversea Corrupt FBI Agents. New Forms need to be created and old ones altered. We need to hire some more Civil Servant Stamp lickers at the DOJ and FBI.”
    Patience? All out of Patience and it is half past time 4am Knocks Knocks with FBI SWAT Teams be visited on Comey, Stzrok, Page, Lynch, Orh (husband and wife), McCabe, Brennan, and Clapper. Put their nuts in a vise and see if they SING on Obama.

  12. Jimmy MacAfee - December 11, 2019

    It was reported that the report was delayed because of “disagreements,” likely disagreements over the conclusion; likely Bill Bar and Chris Wray were wrangling over the summary. Wray’s agreement with the summary indicates that he had something to do with writing the conclusion. Wray needs to be terminated. As President Trump has said: no reform is possible under Wray’s tenure.

  13. Big Al in NC - December 11, 2019

    Rush seemed a bit exasperated with a caller yesterday (Tues 12/10) about how long before someone gets duck-walked and/or treated to the Weissmann midnight raid treatment. He (Rush) then did what he truly does best: He evaluated just what, exactly, Barr/Durham are attempting to deal with: I’m summarizing here, check his website for the transcript…it’s an easy read…. Basically, Durham, under Barr’s direction is tackling the ENTIRE mass of corruption on the “anti-Trump” side politically AND criminally. They can’t succeed piecemeal…doing it a bit at a time… To be successful, they’ve got to round up ALL the loose ends and bag them at one time. BTW: They are doing this under threats and REAL danger to themselves. This is no less an Al Capone vs. Elliott Ness type of situation…in modern terms.
    My observation: Number one clue about Durham’s progress and Barr’s commitment: ****NO LEAKS****. None. We only hear what BARR lets us know. Durham and/or his team aren’t addressing the press with salacious details, etc. That, folks, is a credible and dedicated clue to the earnestness of their investigation.

  14. guidvce4 - December 11, 2019

    Listening to Rush and then portions of the Barr interview, gave me new hope for the results of the Barr/Durham investigations.
    I have thought all along that Barr/Durham will need time to dot all the ‘i’s and cross all the ‘t’s before dropping the hammer on the attempted coup perps. All of them. Rush stated the same thing on his program yesterday. If they don’t do that, there is the possibility the perps/traitors could find the wiggle room to escape any much deserved consequences for their nefarious actions.
    Barr stated the results of their investigations would be forthcoming “late spring or early summer”. I am really hoping that Barr and Durham are taking preventive measures to avoid any leaks to the perps which would allow them to escape to a country with no extradition treaty with the US.
    Rush also mentioned the possibility that whoever gets charged are actually just puppets for a larger world organization which seeks to destroy our nation and way of life. Not sure about that one.
    Anyway, I’m willing to wait for the results of the Barr/Durham investigations. Little choice in the matter, except to be a patient and pay attention to what may happen before that reveal. Which could be interesting in and of itself.
    Just sayin’.

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