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Did Nikki Haley Just Reveal the Leaders of the 25th Amendment Push?

Today’s Campaign Update
(Because The Campaign Never Ends)

Tired of all this #WINNING yet? Yeah, neither am I. – For what seems like the 16,000th time during President Donald Trump’s term in office, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at yet another record high on Monday, as the Trump economy just keeps roaring along. Democrats and fake journalists everywhere were doubling up on their depression meds as the markets closed.

When Nikki Haley speaks, people listen. – When people start surveying the GOP landscape post-Trump, whether that comes in January after being removed from the the presidency by the Senate (which is not likely to happen), in January 2021 after a loss in the 2020 election (also not in the cards) or in January 2025 following the completion of his second term in office (bingo!), the survey inevitably lands to the name of Nikki Haley as one of his most likely successors.

Other names also arise, of course: Names like Mike Pence and Mike Pompeo and Ted Cruz, and the less obvious names like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan and even Texas Congressman Dan Crenshaw. Lindsey Graham, with his thrice-weekly appearances on one Fox News evening program or another, is obviously angling for another run at the gig, as are Rand Paul and even Kanye West. But inevitably, the name of Nikki Haley always comes up.

She is, after all, a former successful governor of South Carolina, and a person who, after not really being on board with the Trump Train during the 2016 campaign, created a very high profile for herself as Trump’s very loyal, very aggressive and very outspoken UN Ambassador. Although her record as Governor was decidedly mixed from a conservative perspective, perhaps more than any of Trump’s cabinet-level officials, Haley has stood out as the most aggressive advocate for his international policies.

Thus it is that anything she has to say about the goings-on inside White House during her two-year tenure is given a lot of weight by most Trump supporters. In a Sunday interview with Kelly O’Donnell of CBS, Haley basically accused both then-Chief of Staff John Kelly and then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson of rank insubordination, even though she said they claimed that was not their intent.

Here’s the key outtake:

Haley recounts a closed-door encounter with then-White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson: “Kelly and Tillerson confided in me that when they resisted the president, they weren’t being insubordinate, they were trying to save the country … Tillerson went on to tell me the reason he resisted the president’s decisions was because, if he didn’t, people would die. This was how high the stakes were, he and Kelly told me. We are doing the best we can do to save the country, they said. We need you to work with us and help us do it. This went on for over an hour.”

O’Donnell asked, “You memorialized that conversation? It definitely happened?”

“It absolutely happened,” said Haley. “And instead of saying that to me, they should’ve been saying that to the president, not asking me to join them on their sidebar plan. It should’ve been, ‘Go tell the president what your differences are, and quit if you don’t like what he’s doing.’ But to undermine a president is really a very dangerous thing. And it goes against the Constitution, and it goes against what the American people want. And it was offensive.”

[We asked them to respond. John Kelly tells “Sunday Morning”: “If by resistance and stalling she means putting a staff process in place … to ensure the (president) knew all the pros and cons of what policy decision he might be contemplating so he could make an informed decision, then guilty as charged.”]

Undermining a president from the inside is indeed a very dangerous thing, as Haley notes, and her accusation against Kelly and Tillerson rings true given everything else we know about the two men and their behavior while serving in those positions. Tillerson repeatedly made his personal disdain for the President and his lack of support for Trump policies related to North Korea, China and other parts of the world very clear while serving as SOS, which is the main reason why his tenure in the office was so short. Kelly’s first move after moving into his Chief of Staff role was not to go after the myriad leakers inside the White House, but rather to cut the President off from his most loyal supporters and start to systematically force them out of their jobs.

Rumors have run rampant for more than two years now that both men were willing participants in the mid-2017 plot to dummy up a rationale for removing Trump from office under the 25th Amendment, a plot we know beyond any reasonable doubt that Rod Rosenstein was a part of. If you believe in the whole “where there’s smoke there’s fire” paradigm, it seems extremely likely that those persistent rumors must have some basis in reality.

If Haley’s contention about the approach by Tillerson and Kelly is accurate – and there is little reason to believe that it is not – then it would be consistent with a move that would be made as a part of a larger 25th amendment effort targeting the President. Haley’s contention here, and cryptic use of the term “sidebar plan,” is troubling in the extreme, and Tillerson’s refusal to even respond to it does not reflect well on him. Kelly’s response, which does not in any way address the accusation, may be even worse.

As mentioned earlier, Haley’s interview – promoting her new book – is also a not-so-subtle attempt to keep herself in the public eye, ready to quickly move in the unlikely event of Trump’s actual removal by the Senate. The following passage reveals that part of her personal agenda:

Haley insists she has no immediate plans to run for any office, including the presidency, and as she departed the Trump administration last year she said, “I can promise you what I’ll be doing is campaigning for this one.”

She told O’Donnell, “A year is a long time in politics. It really is a lifetime in politics. And so, I think what’s best for me is take it a year at a time and see what happens.”

With her new book, lucrative speaking engagements, and a seat on the corporate board of Boeing, Nikki Haley acknowledges there are still chapters to be written:  “I’m too young to stop fighting. I’ll always be out there. I’ll always use the power of my voice for what I believe is good.”

So, whether the jumping off point becomes early 2020, early 2021 or the 2024 election campaign, you can be sure that Nikki Haley will be vying to become the face of the GOP in the wake of the Trump presidency. Lining herself up as this President’s most loyal and vocal supporter helps her cause immensely.

That is all.

 

Today’s news moves at a faster pace than ever. Whatfinger.com is my go-to source for keeping up with all the latest events in real time.

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18 thoughts on “Did Nikki Haley Just Reveal the Leaders of the 25th Amendment Push?

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    phineas gage - November 12, 2019

    I still don’t like how she didn’t go public with this immediately, seems like she was trying to maintain her political viability depending upon how things went for Trump. But then again, maybe Trump told her to keep it under wraps.

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      ItsJo - November 12, 2019

      I think that POTUS most likely DID ask Haley to ‘keep this quiet for a while.” Truthfully, I wish that Trump WOULD consider her for his 2020 V.P. as I believe that Pence is too quiet/generic conservative who does not even take a meeting w/a woman unless his wife is there. As a future POTUS after Trump, would he ALSO have her sitting in the Oval WITH HIM, so no one can say he is doing ‘hanky panky?” Stand up guy, but NOT very outspoken or shows much Action, and also, doesn’t come out forcefully to Defend POTUS Trump.
      I sometimes feel that “Potus Trump IS standing alone, without Strong Backing(of course with next to None from the ‘Rino’s/Old Establishment’ as they are upset that he took away their abilities to “Amass their OWN personal fortunes, and NOT DOING THE PEOPLE’S BUSINESS THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY HIRED TO DO.”

      btw: Perhaps Pence Knows he is Not up to the job and doesn’t even want to run in 2020? I think it would be a Very Good Move w/Haley who did an “Excellent Job at the U.N.” she put people in their Places, when they were trying to bully/intimidate her position as she was Very Out Spoken. I believe she would get many female voters also!!!

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    Jimmy MacAfee - November 12, 2019

    Hard to keep track of all the saboteurs, most lately Eric CIA and Vendman, possibly John Bolton. McMasters was a snake (with all apologies to actual snakes.) Seems that there are also a lot of wannabees, like Judge Napolitano, who bitterly opposed Trump after he allegedly sought a SCOTUS seat – (proving that he doesn’t have the temperament for the position.) Imagine if he were on the court! What damage he might have caused!

    Remember, there had been a letter to the NY Slimes, supposedly from someone inside, mirroring what Kelly may have told Haley. Seems that letter was genuine, and from someone like Eric CIA – (I thought it was someone under Haley – definitely a female voice, which could have been either Vendman or Eric CIA.) DHS Secretary Nielson also wasn’t following orders, similar to what the letter-writer claimed; could have been her, but with all the Obama-leftovers in the Whitehouse, it could have been a lot of people. We’re only now beginning to see the depth of this junta against the President (and against the Constitution and the American people.) All of these, coordinating through the fake news. As President Trump has repeatedly stated: we need to keep this from happening to any other President.

    Only hangings and/or lengthy prison terms will remedy this attempted junta, and the restructuring of several lettered agencies..

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      Jonesy - November 12, 2019

      Jimmy, might as well forget about any serious punishment. No one will ever hang for any crime. The country has no stomach for it. I’m worried that even if Trump “caught them all”, any punishment is going to be viewed as an abuse of power, and strain an already divided nation, regardless of what Durham and Barr find. Look at how the left is behaving over a simple phone call with Ukraine. Granted, they think they can impeach him over it, or at least hurt him politically going into the 2020 election. But if he sent some people to jail all while getting reelected, the left is going to lose its collective mind. Even if there is clear proof of criminal wrongdoing. I don’t think we are going to see a point where things return to a civil normal.

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        Jimmy MacAfee - November 12, 2019

        We will see, won’t we? With the CIA still being run by Brennan – it appears that Haspel ties and shines his shoes – it would be a nice surprise if the CIA decides it doesn’t want to be associated with a criminal cabal. Same with Wray and the FBI: we shall see. But we will be devoured in flames if we don’t clean up this sh$t, and Americans decide to move on Washington. Want to see that happen? Prosecute no one. We’re ready. Are you?

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    Jimmy MacAfee - November 12, 2019

    Haley is smart; she would have been considered a fruitcake had she come out earlier, a running joke with the Wapo and Slimes. Now, with Eric CIA and Vendman, and Schittychitty Bang Bang (comic version serving in Congress) so visible to everybody, her confirmation has more gravitas. Timing is everything.

    And this means that even more of you stinking swamp creatures will be exposed, no matter your distance from your time in the Whitehouse and in various Agencies.

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    Steve Coerper - November 12, 2019

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/10/nikki-haley-president-trump-and-maga-convenient-friction/

    Still not sure which way this one will go. A year IS a lifetime in politics, and the landscape may be radically different – and most certainly will be – in 2024.

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      David Blackmon - November 12, 2019

      Yeah, I understand Sundance’s skepticism. However, it is very fair to note that, at this urgently important moment in time, the President’s most vocal and effective advocate is Nikki Haley. That may be entirely self-serving, but I doubt it.

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        phineas gage - November 12, 2019

        Speaking of, sundance hilariously takes apart the tedious Sean Hannity in his latest post. I know Hannity has done dogged yeoman’s work, but god he becomes tiresome with his memorized recitations and endless tick-tock alerts that lead to nothing.

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          David Blackmon - November 12, 2019

          Hannity has aired essentially the same TV hour and 3-hour radio program 5 days a week for 34 months now. I lost the ability to view or listen to either one about 2 years back.

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      Jimmy MacAfee - November 12, 2019

      If Haley is only an opportunist, who has been working with the Deep State against President Trump, there will be no shortage of people emerging to attack her who have worked with or under her. If not, then it’s safe to assume that she’s not a swamp weasel at all.

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    Jimmy MacAfee - November 12, 2019

    If you want to know how deep this junta goes, don’t stop with Tillerson and Kelly and McMasters and Brennan; it goes deeper – far deeper:

    https://youtu.be/JSHvTTeCP9U

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    Sharon Campbell - November 12, 2019

    Interesting. I guessed Tillerson & Kelly did something the President really didn’t like when they were dismissed so quickly. I’ve never considered Nicky might be positioning herself for a presidential run.

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    Dave Hunter - November 12, 2019

    Nikki bolstered her GOP cred by serving loyally, and therefore I believe she must have told the president of the incipient coup. I don’t claim to know what is going on in the WH now, but leaving the NSC in place as it is currently constituted is extremely unwise. Further, a security clearance is not a right but a privilege and the top level clearances held by NSC and WH staff members can be reinvestigated at any time. People with those clearances are able to be polygraphed under just about any circumstances and I believe a leak investigation would suffice. Why that wasn’t done, and isn’t continuously done for each and every leak of consequence is beyond my understanding.

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    Jonesy - November 12, 2019

    Of course Haley is laying the groundwork for a run at the WH. She served well as the UN Ambassador, and was very aggressive with our foreign policy, rightly so. And she got out clean before she was forced to support anything the MSM could really hang her on. She does have a mixed record as the Gov of SC. People change their positions over time and that’s OK. The question will be what her positions/platform when she runs? Will she lean conservative or more centrist? I’m convinced there is no perfect candidate – there will always be something that makes the choice a lesser of two evils.

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    Jimmy MacAfee - November 12, 2019

    Wonder if Tillerson and Kelly objected to this?
    https://cnsnews.com/article/international/patrick-goodenough/nsa-obrien-unlike-obama-trump-did-provide-lethal-military

    Certainly puts the kill shot on the fake quid pro quo narrative.

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    Jimmy MacAfee - November 12, 2019

    Sebastian Gorka questioned why Haley waited until now, or why she didn’t inform the President at the time: her succinct Twitter response: “I did. Thank you for your interest.”

    https://www.independentsentinel.com/rex-tillerson-seb-gorka-john-kelly-all-respond-to-nikki-haleys-allegations/

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    Iron Monkey - November 12, 2019

    KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov predicted Obama over 20 years ago and he lives very close to the steaming pile on the swamp.
    Nikki probably just wants some sheckels for her gold kettle and a LOL attempt at a white house run.
    Hopefully Trump is playing 4-D chess and reading The Art Of War everyday.
    He is a smart fellow so I know he knows not to trust anyone even if they have the same last name.

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